Ep 130: Donna Wallace ~ Intuition, Healing & Transformation

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Truth and Transcendence, brought to you by BeingSpace with Catherine Llewellyn.

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Truth and Transcendence, episode 130, with special guest Donna Wallace.

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Now, if you haven't come across Donna, she is a lady who helps people all around the world to switch on their lights, and we'll find out what that means as we continue in the conversation.

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Having experienced her own dark days, or, in fact, years, donna found her way through meaningless jobs trying to find herself and her purpose.

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A specialised HR role in a large corporate in Melbourne, australia, saw Donna using her intuition in a way that was useful and effective.

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Always having dreamt of doing energy healing as her sole, sole income, donna finally got the courage to pursue this when her daughter was born.

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It was at this point that she made a commitment to herself to follow her intuition, which took her on a magical carpet ride with exciting and, at times, challenging twists and turns.

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The work Donna does with clients today is to help them discover their perfect soulmate stone, creating soul-sparking heirloom jewellery that helps them blossom into their full soul potential.

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So why did I invite Donna?

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Donna's chosen mission is so unique and so bold, and, in fact, we were talking in the prequel about the fact that, as far as we know, no one else is doing this, but also, of course, sparkly, that I just couldn't say no.

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I love how Donna has found a completely different direction and has gone with it 100%, utterly inspiring, and anyone who's listening and actually I include myself who's ever been considering doing something that no one's ever done before Donna's story actually is well worth listening to, because she took an enormous leap of courage.

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So, donna, thank you so much for coming on Truth and Transcendence.

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Oh, catherine, it's such a delight and a pleasure to be here.

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Thank you, Great.

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So obviously intuition has been a really strong element of Donna's story.

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Where she decided to, she had this very strong intuitive sense of what to do and she followed it and I'm fascinated by that whole notion of intuition, partly because over here in the UK certainly it's not really something most of us are brought up to really investigate or strengthen or trust or follow and in fact often when people use the word intuition they're not really talking about intuition.

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They're really talking about well-processed information along with a little bit of imagination.

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You know, intuition is something much more mysterious and infinite than that.

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So I think intuition is also very important right now, because many of us are in a situation where we don't necessarily know what to do, or how to do it, or how to fix some of the problems that we've inherited from the past few years.

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So I think intuition is a fantastic thing for today.

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So, donna, I'm going to leap right in with my very first question, please do.

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I'll ask all of my guests.

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Can you remember when you first kind of realized or noticed that intuition was something that was really important to you?

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Really interesting to you, oh.

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It is a really great question and I can't remember the first moments.

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I actually, as I say that, what's coming up for me are the many, many, many times that I was intuitively picking up things as a child and happened to grow up in a household where that wasn't the norm, when intuition wasn't the norm.

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And so, yes, probably that my first experiences, right from when I was tiny, were me having a very strong sense of what people were feeling around me and knowing what people were going through my family, especially my parents, and also that not being acknowledged because the issues in the household weren't being spoken about at that point in time.

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So in that, in some ways I think that not in some ways, I think in probably every way our children are incredibly intuitive and if we're not having the conversation with them to validate what they're getting perceiving, picking up, then it starts to get squashed and we, as sensitive beings, start to doubt ourselves.

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Absolutely yes, and is that partly because we're intuiting that it's not being approved of in some way or not being yes.

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but also we're told, we're quite literally told, no, that's not the case, mummy's fine, and you know, mummy's not fine.

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I think that we're told that the opposite, we're told white lies, and those white lies go against what we know to be true.

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And so here we are already on the topic of truth, Catherine, in a different way, perhaps, exploring it in a different way.

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But yeah, that we have a sense of truth.

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Our intuition gives us a sense of what is right, what is not morally right or the right thing to do, but what is like writers in our truth and, depending on our upbringing, our culture, that all informs us as to how valid it is for us to live by that or not.

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And I would say that, probably similar to what you said, that intuition is not really a commonly, is not commonly A understood, but B supported and nurtured in the UK, but it's the same.

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I would say that it was probably the same here in Australia, predominantly when I was growing up, and I think that the world is becoming quite a different place now, which is so exciting.

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I agree with you.

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I really do.

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And there are more and more people now talking about intuition.

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Yes, I noticed a lot of them, compared to me, are quite very young.

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Different things come to light in different generations, I think and become trusted in different ways Because, like you, I was quite intuitive as a child, which people found very annoying.

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I just considered it to be a nuisance which I've decided to make into a lifestyle but yes, it was and a career.

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Turn it into a career.

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I don't know, I'll pay you for it Interesting way.

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I'm not going to put that in my marketing and anything I'm going to.

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I'm going to say not.

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So what was that like?

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Being a very intuitive child and not just having people not really validate it, but literally having people try to convince you that what you were saying was not true, when you knew it was true?

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Can you remember what that was like?

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Yes, I think that really, what happened quite quickly was that I didn't express what I felt and.

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I didn't voice it and so I do remember what it was like To me.

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It was without any disrespect to my parents, because I love them dearly and they did their best job bringing me up, but for me it was very challenging to be a very emotional and sensitive and intuitive child and it not be responded to in that way.

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So instead I was the kid who had big feelings, who wanted too much.

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That too muchness was very much my experience of how I was perceived and, yes, very emotional and very sensitive.

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And then, on the other hand, I was the good girl and the people pleaser and the one who also wanted to make things come in our family, so I would try and be like resolve problems and things like that as well.

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So it was challenging, if I'm perfectly honest, really challenging, and that took me through some really dark days in my teenage years, really dark days, just like going through that process and trying to figure out who I was and yet not feeling understood by anyone.

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And I was lucky that I had a few different people in my world pop in at different times.

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It really did see me and did understand who I am, who I am at the heart of me, and could recognise the gifts that I have as well, because of course, they share them too.

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So they got it.

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Oh, fantastic.

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I just want to say I'd love to hear a bit more about some of those people you know who?

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They were, and how they turned up in your life.

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Yes, that would be amazing.

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I'd love to share that.

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So I had an auntie who she didn't have any daughters, she had sons and, for whatever reason, her and I just have always had this amazing bond and she just totally spoiled me and adored me and loved me and there was this level of unspoken acceptance that I experienced through her which was really special.

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She was there in my earlier years and then they moved away when I was a teenager my totally kind of out of character for my family.

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But my family started doing this personal development courses and at one of these personal development courses I met a woman.

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Her name is Joan and I was Catherine.

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You'll laugh at this, but I was crying, I was upset.

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I think I was about 16 or something and I had been breaking up with a boyfriend and you know, my world was falling apart.

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I know Catherine was so excited about myself, right?

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Yeah.

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And Joan came over and said listen, donna, I see that you're upset.

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Come and sit in the corner over here.

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I'll bring a chair over for you.

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And she put her hands on my shoulders and gave me Reiki and it instantly felt warming and calming.

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But, more importantly, it was the first experience that I ever had of being at home.

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See you in a moment, this body in this life, on this planet called Earth.

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My first experience of being at home.

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Wow.

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And that was a completely life changing moment in time.

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From then, I knew that I was absolutely meant to find out what this Reiki thing was, learn to it straight away.

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As soon as that next course was available, I was booked in with Joan, and her partner is a Reiki master, was a Reiki master, and Joan became a very, a very strong, big, significant part of my life.

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I can feel that emotion.

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I'm talking about her, but she basically helped me navigate the most challenging times in my life and helped me understand, from a spiritual perspective, why I went through what I went through, and she just gave me this light and this understanding and this spiritual context that helped me make sense of everything that was wrong about me, about what I'd experienced, and gave me a sense of the rightness of it and why, how I could use it to take the gold out of absolutely horrendous things that I'd experienced to, yeah, being basically.

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What I'm alluding to is.

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I'm an experience where I was sexually assaulted, and it was, of course, it wasn't pleasant, or I usually talk about this on podcasts, catherine but, here we are.

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It was the most challenging time of my life.

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I went through a five year process with the police and court case, and that man ultimately was sentenced and went to jail, and what happened in that process was that there were a number of other victims who came forward and Joan showed me through different spiritual language, like she's an astrologer, and she showed me through different modalities, why I went through what I went through and how I came out of it as a way to show off for other people.

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And if it wasn't for me standing up to that man, then all of these other victims wouldn't have come forward and wouldn't have had the kind of resolution that we all had.

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And so, yeah, significant conversations, deep healing that Joan helped give me, that I'd really, to be honest, don't know what I would have done without her and what we went through together and how she supported me.

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And so Joan is like about 30 or 40 years older than me, and so she's still a special part of my world and my life and, yeah, she's one person who really stepped in.

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And I feel, catherine, that this is what happens in our lives when there are things missing or that we need, and particularly if we're not getting them from our parents, other people will come in in other ways and we'll always get what we need.

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It just doesn't always look the way that we A want it or expect it, or you know, they thought it would happen, so but you have to be open to receiving it.

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At the time, don't you?

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I mean, you were obviously on that particular day, you were upset and you allowed that to come through.

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You hadn't bottled it down or hidden it.

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You were in that kind of semi-public situation and you allowed that to come through and you allowed it to be like this, and when she came to you and invited you to go off into the corner, you went with her.

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You didn't say no, I'll be all right, leave me alone.

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You silly old woman, you know which some people would have done.

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So I think it is I never thought about it like that as I'm imagining that story, because, as you're describing it, thank you so much for sharing that.

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That's such a personal story and I'm very touched by it and I feel like I want to acknowledge that you did respond and you were open.

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You were open to your vulnerability and you were open to receiving the gift that she gave you on that day and to receiving.

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And another thing that occurs sometimes sometimes the first time somebody is given something like Reiki or any kind of loving touch or empathetic input, If they've been, shall we say, starved before that or lacking before that, sometimes they can't or won't receive it the first time.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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Yeah, and if?

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something can and does receive it the first time.

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What that says is that that person's very open in that moment and also courageous in that moment, Because otherwise they would block it or semi-block it.

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Interesting Sometimes people have to have many treatments before it starts to seep in, before they start to relax and open enough for it to come in.

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That's a really interesting happen.

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I haven't actually experienced that myself and I've had worked with lots of people with energy healing, but not experienced that.

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But it makes sense, and I also yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

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And at the same time, maybe my soul or my intuition, knew what was behind those doors of sitting in the corner with, you know, joan, putting her hands on my shoulders.

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It was the very thing that I was, in truth, desperate for.

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Yeah, and the fact you were in the first place, and there's no, no coincidence why your family started to do personal development stuff, personal growth stuff.

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So you know all these factors.

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I really want to acknowledge your openness in that moment and I really want to acknowledge Joan, joan, but I also really want to acknowledge the thing that you said about you being the way show for people in regard to naming that you had been abused and sticking with it for that five year period, because I know that's not easy.

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It really isn't and it really wasn't.

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And yet I just knew that I couldn't give up and I knew that I just had to take it to wherever it could possibly go, whatever outcome we could possibly get.

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I just knew and it was awful, it was really awful.

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But I think that's something that I've always had within me, catherine, right from when I was really young was I think there's something more available, like life gets me better than this.

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I know that there's something like on the other side of this.

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I've always had that deep knowing inside of me.

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So, and yeah, of course, there have been times where I've been like, oh, my goodness, universe, really, like is this really?

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And then like, no, I'm not doing this anymore.

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I'm not doing this intuition thing anymore, I'm not doing this trust and faith thing anymore.

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I don't believe in you anymore because look at where you've landed me.

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So I've definitely had those moments, but I can honestly say the times where I have disconnected from my faith in that way or my connection with the divine, have been like absolute misery, just so awful.

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And so what's the alternative?

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What else can be?

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Yeah, I don't wanna stay in that place of misery, so I choose the light and I choose my connection with the divine and I choose following my intuition, because whenever my head tells us which way we end up going, it never works out that well for me.

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Yeah, no, I understand and I've had equivalence and I'm sure a lot of people have, and I think we have a critical mind, we have a faculty of rationalization and part of that, I think, sometimes is to question and test you know, test.

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If I step off the path and try this, does it really not work?

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Ah yeah, it really doesn't work.

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Cool, so my path is validated again.

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It's how I carry on, I think it's part of the path.

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I think Falling off the path is part of the path.

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I think Absolutely, because we all am, we all fall off or we all fall down, and then we all get back up again.

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Yeah, absolutely Amazing.

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So you can probably see a cat appearing now.

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Doing acrobatics.

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Yes, listeners have probably fed up with this.

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Now I've got this adopted cat who just is relaxing now and jumping up everywhere he's not supposed to be.

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I love it.

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I often have cats and people's cats and dogs and babies coming to calls with me.

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It just happens.

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So well.

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You're obviously a lovely human being, so I really appreciate that story about Joan, and I'm imagining you had a number of other people as well along the way.

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Is there someone else you particularly like to share about and the difference that made for you?

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Yeah, I'd love to share about my current mentor, hannah.

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I met her a number of years ago and I had gotten to a point where I had tried lots of different modalities and I just hadn't got to the healing and the resolution that I wanted.

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I still was kind of unhappy on the inside, even though I had a great life on the outside, and Hannah really has been such a the biggest spark of light for me.

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That's helped open up my own light and has given me the kind of support and love and care and insight that I've needed as well.

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And so Hannah actually she was living in London, she's in Germany now, but she taught me how to.

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She taught me to become a family constellation therapist and that is a modality that I absolutely love.

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That has made the biggest difference in my life personally.

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That's what I did.

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Some of that training with her I mean my training that I did was with her, and now I do that for my clients too have done for a few years.

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And she's also the support for me that I got when I had my current business came through.

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It was in a session with Hannah and I had said to her like I can feel something.

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I know that something wants to come through in my business and I'd been doing my energy healing and you know holistic counselling and family constellation therapy work for a number of years and I just had this feeling like something big wanted to come through.

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And it was in a session with Hannah that we opened up what that actually was.

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Well, I'd love to.

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In a little while I'm going to ask you more about your what you're doing now, but first for any listeners, you don't know what family constellations is which I also adore, by the way, oh do you.

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Yeah, would you just give a little heads up about what that is, because I've got a feeling that for some people listening that might be an important thing to hear about.

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Yes, of course, as I said to you, it is the one healing modality that I found, after searching for like over 25 years, that made the biggest difference to me, that actually healed the stuff that I couldn't resolve.

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But family constellation therapy works on the energy field of our family system.

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So there is, just like we have, an energy field, an aura.

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Our family system also has an energy field, and all of the information that's stored in the field is basically tells us how to behave, how to act, how to like, what we can do, what we can't do, what we need to do to belong to the family system.

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And when we're born, our primary need is to belong to the family, the family, because if we don't belong we die, and so our need to belong to the family system is greater than our need for anything else, because it equals survival.

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And so when we're born into the family system, if there has been any trauma that hasn't been healed or processed by family members, it sits there in the field as unprocessed trauma, and sometimes, when new children are born into that family, they'll pick that unprocessed trauma up, they'll take it on as theirs and they will relive or live out like some of those same issues or same circumstances, Like maybe it's health issues that are common in that family, or maybe it's addiction or gambling or being assaulted or dying at a young age All sorts of different things that can be seen as family patterns happen because those children are coming into the family and out of love and loyalty.

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They want to help resolve those issues.

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They want more love, more happiness and more joy to come about in the family.

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They want everyone to feel happier and more love.

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But in actual fact we know that living out someone else's unprocessed trauma doesn't actually work, and so in family constellation therapy we basically find all the stuff that's going on in the field of the family system, all the things that are like kinking the hose of love and lifeless energy for everyone.

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We figure out what that unprocessed trauma is and for my clients we go through a process of releasing it.

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And then also the constellation part is we move everyone into their rightful places.

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So like a wolf pack, Catherine, if every wolf knows its position and every wolf knows its role, and if the wolves in their rightful positions and in their rightful roles, and it's a really healthy wolf pack and same within our family, if we are all in the rightful positions and we're all playing our rightful roles, then we're a healthy family system and the energy of that, the energy of love and life force, flows really easily.

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But, for instance, if I'm the child and I'm relating to my mother like she's the child and I'm being the parent, then we're not in the right roles and so there's not as much life force energy moving through the field of the family system.

00:26:26.125 --> 00:26:41.076
So what we do is we clear all of that, we put everyone into their rightful roles and positions and we start receiving literally from behind us, because that's where our parents are meant to be standing, in the field of the family system.

00:26:41.076 --> 00:26:46.897
We are meant to be receiving love and life force, energy and support from behind us, from them.

00:26:47.986 --> 00:26:55.900
And so when you don't have it and you can't feel it like, that's one thing.

00:26:55.900 --> 00:27:24.125
And then when you I'm stating the obvious, but I'm always going through this process in my mind of feeling the difference of not having it and then having it, and the difference when you do have that experience of that love and support coming through from your parents behind you, your body relaxes and sometimes it feels like a real relief, like oh, I'm finally getting what I need, and then also it can be like having the wind beneath your wings.

00:27:24.125 --> 00:27:28.125
So then you can go out and create the most beautiful life.

00:27:28.125 --> 00:27:37.045
And it's done, not in a way of I've got to break the glass ceiling, I've got to go to university when none of my no other women in my family have gone to university.

00:27:37.045 --> 00:27:44.163
I've got to go out there and make that business, and no other women in my family have made, you know, had businesses.

00:27:44.163 --> 00:27:45.125
It's not like that.

00:27:45.826 --> 00:28:07.105
The way that I see it now is that I turn around and I say to like you know, not in the real life yet but, in my mind, I turn around and I say to my mom and my dad and to all of my ancestors behind me, like I want to create the most beautiful, happiest like gorgeous life, and I'm going to do it in honor of you.

00:28:08.266 --> 00:28:21.730
I'm going to do it in honor of everything that you've been through, because everything that our ancestors have been through has allowed me to get to this point where I can even do this healing work for our family and I can offer.

00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:39.532
So we have these, the healing gets done, say, through me, but then there's this beautiful ripple effect that everyone in the field of my family system receives, whether they're alive or they're passed away and, of course, now down through to my children and to me, catherine.

00:28:39.532 --> 00:28:49.085
That is everything, because I don't want to have unprocessed trauma sitting over my face like an octopus and I can't see what's right in front of me.

00:28:49.085 --> 00:28:51.125
Instead, I want that all cleared.

00:28:51.125 --> 00:29:04.837
So I am free and I am open and I can do my job of giving my kids all of the love and the support that they need and really seeing them for their beautiful, incredible individual.

00:29:04.837 --> 00:29:08.821
Joy yourselves and help them grow in that way.

00:29:09.747 --> 00:29:16.045
Thank you so much for explaining family constellations in such a personal way Wonderful.

00:29:16.045 --> 00:29:19.429
It's really worth looking into anyone who's listening.

00:29:19.429 --> 00:29:23.013
If that really, if that touched you in any way, it's worth looking into.

00:29:23.013 --> 00:29:27.539
There are more and more really wonderful practitioners around.

00:29:27.539 --> 00:29:36.119
I live in rural Wales and I just recently discovered there's a incredibly talented family constellation practitioner 20 minutes away.

00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.615
Oh, how perfect.

00:29:37.615 --> 00:29:39.125
And it does the most beautiful.

00:29:39.125 --> 00:29:41.053
I haven't trained in it personally.

00:29:41.053 --> 00:29:46.105
I just participated, but it is very, very beautiful, wonderful work it is.

00:29:47.428 --> 00:29:50.615
I also do what I've been doing, so I have clients.

00:29:50.615 --> 00:29:55.676
We don't have to do it in person too Fantastic.

00:29:55.676 --> 00:29:56.500
So yeah, that's that.

00:29:57.623 --> 00:29:58.125
Thank you so much.

00:29:58.125 --> 00:30:00.044
So let's get forward a bit.

00:30:00.044 --> 00:30:06.005
So listening to you, there's obviously a book.

00:30:06.005 --> 00:30:11.125
There's a book obviously available in this whole story of your life.

00:30:11.125 --> 00:30:16.576
There are so many fascinating aspects to it, with so many fascinating themes.

00:30:16.576 --> 00:30:29.901
But if we come forward to that moment when you made that switch, which was when your daughter was born and you decided to follow that intuitive path.

00:30:29.901 --> 00:30:32.632
I'd love to hear more about it.

00:30:32.652 --> 00:30:33.273
Yeah, if you'd like to.

00:30:33.273 --> 00:30:35.730
That was a really big deal, catherine.

00:30:35.730 --> 00:30:39.011
It was a huge turning point in my life.

00:30:39.011 --> 00:30:47.085
After she was born I don't know how many months old she was, maybe six I was completely sleep deprived.

00:30:47.085 --> 00:30:49.003
My darling daughter did not sleep.

00:30:49.003 --> 00:30:54.010
They're falling down the deny, and it didn't matter.

00:30:54.010 --> 00:31:04.597
What happened was, when she was born, I had this sense of like oh my goodness, finally we're all together again.

00:31:04.597 --> 00:31:06.380
Finally she's here.

00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:08.631
Side, I had my son already.

00:31:08.631 --> 00:31:13.653
Our family felt complete when she arrived and something was happening.

00:31:13.993 --> 00:31:23.930
As I was, you know, in those first few months and yeah, I think it was about the time that she was six months old I had this real epiphany, and that was.

00:31:23.930 --> 00:31:29.098
I feel like her soul is asking me to be everything that I can be.

00:31:29.098 --> 00:31:36.125
I feel like I can't just be that mother that says that you can do anything that you want in your life.

00:31:36.125 --> 00:31:39.674
I'll encourage you and I'll support you and I'll be your biggest cheerleader.

00:31:39.674 --> 00:31:54.477
Instead, I had this knowing that I had to role model it, that I had to be following my dreams, that I had to be living my dreams, that I could live the life that I had always dreamt of and didn't think was possible.

00:31:54.477 --> 00:32:21.037
And so with that, I made a decision that, like if I was ever going to do my healing work and this is the dream that I'd always had while I was working all the different corporate jobs and feeling like my soul was dying at the same time, I just thought, if I don't do it now, I'm never going to do it.

00:32:21.037 --> 00:32:22.390
I have to do it now.

00:32:22.390 --> 00:32:24.836
I know it's not ideal.

00:32:24.836 --> 00:32:26.125
We're both sleep deprived.

00:32:26.125 --> 00:32:33.959
I'm still like breastfeeding this young baby and at some point I'm going to go back to that corporate job part time, which I did.

00:32:33.959 --> 00:32:35.887
But I just made a decision.

00:32:35.887 --> 00:32:38.332
I had to do it and I had to.

00:32:38.332 --> 00:32:50.117
Just, I didn't know if it was going to work out, but I just had to give it a go and I knew that my daughter's soul was really asking me to step into my fullness and be everything that I could be.

00:32:50.117 --> 00:32:53.517
So I didn't know how I was going to do it, catherine.

00:32:53.517 --> 00:32:55.065
I didn't know how to do it.

00:32:55.065 --> 00:32:55.925
I didn't know.

00:32:55.925 --> 00:33:04.680
I didn't even really not even sure if I believed it was possible then to earn the kind of money that I needed to to give up my corporate job.

00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:15.878
And so I just started, and where I started was I was I opened the doors to my business officially.

00:33:17.268 --> 00:33:21.636
I'd always been doing my healing work on the side, as a hobby kind of you know side to being.

00:33:21.636 --> 00:33:40.065
And when I did open the doors to my business, I had people flood in to me like flood in and I, after not very long, was booked up like three months in advance and I was working nights and then at some point I went back to my corporate job a few days a week.

00:33:40.065 --> 00:33:48.900
So I was mum to the young baby who still wasn't sleeping, working the very intense corporate job and then also doing my healing work at night.

00:33:48.900 --> 00:33:50.248
And was I tired?

00:33:50.248 --> 00:33:54.057
Yes, but was I the most fulfilled I'd ever been?

00:33:54.057 --> 00:33:56.125
Oh, you better believe it.

00:33:56.125 --> 00:34:08.340
Like I hadn't had that feeling, like finally I feel content and fulfilled because I know finally I'm doing what I meant to be doing.

00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:18.733
And that feeling, compared to the many years before of the absence of that, was everything.

00:34:18.733 --> 00:34:21.278
Yeah, it still leaves everything.

00:34:22.014 --> 00:34:31.623
And when you first opened your doors as a business at that time, what was the name of the business and what were you offering at that time?

00:34:33.476 --> 00:34:35.242
I just called it my name.

00:34:35.242 --> 00:34:37.519
I just called it.

00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.485
Hang on, was it my name?

00:34:39.485 --> 00:34:40.918
I think I had.

00:34:40.918 --> 00:34:43.184
Yeah, it was my name.

00:34:43.184 --> 00:34:44.065
It was Donna Wallace.

00:34:44.065 --> 00:34:45.954
I'm just thinking back to my old branding.

00:34:45.954 --> 00:34:47.099
It was Donna Wallace.

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:59.706
At the same time, I decided that I would figure out how to bring one of my other dreams to life, which was like a 20-year-old dream of doing my healing work in a TP.

00:34:59.706 --> 00:35:01.036
So I had a big.

00:35:01.036 --> 00:35:27.447
I ended up getting a big TP and went in our backyard and, yeah, at the time I was offering Reiki and I was offering like holistic counseling and energy healing, spiritual healing and helping people tap into their intuition and helping people connect with their spirit guides, just being with people in whatever space they need it.

00:35:27.786 --> 00:35:29.009
Yeah, beautiful, thank you.

00:35:29.009 --> 00:35:32.601
So how did that then evolve from?

00:35:32.641 --> 00:35:32.963
there.

00:35:32.963 --> 00:35:50.001
So after that I started working with a business coach and she really pushed me out of my comfort zone and asked me to charge more and structure my business in a different way and gave me lots of tips around how to do that.

00:35:50.001 --> 00:36:14.447
And there was a plan for me to get to a certain level of income with my healing business, at which point I was going to resign from my corporate job and instead what happened was one day I was walking out of the TP bare feet on the grass in the backyard and I just got this very quiet message like a whisper Catherine, it's time.

00:36:14.447 --> 00:36:26.525
And I kind of did this tuffle take and I knew exactly what they meant and I just knew I wasn't quite at that point of that financial income that I wanted.

00:36:26.525 --> 00:36:35.009
It scared me out of my wits and I thought, oh, my goodness, it's not time, catherine, it's not time.

00:36:35.009 --> 00:36:36.579
Like I'm not ready for it.

00:36:36.579 --> 00:36:37.623
Are we really ready?

00:36:37.623 --> 00:36:38.878
Can I really do this?

00:36:38.878 --> 00:36:43.664
Big deep breaths and following that intuition.

00:36:44.715 --> 00:36:59.262
And so I did, and my manager was really supportive at my work and she said well, let me see if I can arrange a period of unpaid leave which she was able to get across the line, which they weren't giving out to anyone at that point in time.

00:36:59.262 --> 00:37:16.369
So it meant that I could have unpaid leave for a year while I got, while I established my business, and I think it was about nine months into that time and I just felt like, oh no, I can't stay, I can't use this as a back door anymore.

00:37:16.369 --> 00:37:20.864
Energetically I want to disconnect from that and just really own.

00:37:20.864 --> 00:37:23.541
This is what I'm doing and subsequently resigned.

00:37:23.541 --> 00:37:34.161
At that point it was so wonderful to have amazing supportive manager who like really bless her heart and still friends with her now.

00:37:34.201 --> 00:37:34.822
Fantastic.

00:37:35.324 --> 00:37:35.905
Isn't that great.

00:37:36.074 --> 00:37:40.867
I mean, there is a thread running through everything that you said of what I might call kindness.

00:37:40.867 --> 00:37:46.206
You know you said as a child you wanted to be kind in your family.

00:37:46.206 --> 00:37:51.347
I don't think you used that word, but you wanted to help this situation.

00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:54.358
I wanted to help it we wanted to help you.

00:37:55.655 --> 00:37:59.063
So that element has definitely been present, hasn't it all the way through?

00:38:00.436 --> 00:38:01.219
So much so.

00:38:02.295 --> 00:38:07.742
From you to others, from others to you, and that's a beautiful thing, isn't it?

00:38:07.742 --> 00:38:08.244
That's just.

00:38:08.974 --> 00:38:10.137
Thank you for that reflection.

00:38:12.103 --> 00:38:13.065
It just really struck me.

00:38:13.065 --> 00:38:21.302
I mean, it's easy for me to notice these things because I'm getting this sort of summary of the story, you know, and I'm not in it.

00:38:22.561 --> 00:38:23.974
So yeah, that's great.

00:38:24.215 --> 00:38:24.918
Isn't that great.

00:38:24.918 --> 00:38:31.505
So, how did that then transition towards what you're doing now?

00:38:34.277 --> 00:38:36.521
So well, okay.

00:38:36.521 --> 00:38:39.128
So I did that for quite a few years.

00:38:39.128 --> 00:38:46.909
My healing went for quite a number of years and then we decided that we would make a move from.

00:38:46.909 --> 00:38:55.826
So I was living in the western suburbs of Melbourne with my family and then we wanted to make a tree slash sea change which we did in the middle of the pandemic.

00:38:55.826 --> 00:39:01.025
So I know that you started your podcast at that time too.

00:39:01.025 --> 00:39:04.041
We moved at the very beginning of 2021.

00:39:05.717 --> 00:39:21.264
And it was during that time that I had that feeling of like I know something else wants to come through, but let's just sell the house, buy the new block of land, move and settle, and then I'll figure out what that big thing is that wants to come through.

00:39:21.894 --> 00:39:29.619
So I'm sharing that because I know that my move to the beach, catherine, that changed everything for me.

00:39:29.619 --> 00:39:40.360
I finally now live in a place that feels like heaven on earth to me and energetically is so supportive for me it is.

00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.344
I went for a swim in the ocean this morning with a friend.

00:39:44.344 --> 00:39:45.800
Mind you, it was really cold.

00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.521
It was like 15 degrees in the water, super cold.

00:39:51.521 --> 00:39:53.601
Anyway, we're in there and we're just.

00:39:53.601 --> 00:39:59.998
Every week we swim together, me and a couple of friends and we all say this is amazing, like we're so lucky.

00:39:59.998 --> 00:40:04.396
You know, we were just in this little slice of heaven Anyway.

00:40:04.396 --> 00:40:15.126
So I believe that sometimes where we are and the location and the sacred land that we're living on really does contribute to who we are and the capacity that we have.

00:40:15.126 --> 00:40:20.181
And also I feel like sometimes we need to be in particular places to bring things through.

00:40:20.521 --> 00:40:20.943
Yeah.

00:40:20.983 --> 00:40:22.224
Certainly was in my case.

00:40:22.224 --> 00:40:24.027
Yeah, yeah, you get that too.

00:40:24.027 --> 00:40:25.168
I feel deeply agree.

00:40:25.268 --> 00:40:27.960
Yeah, I experienced that in my own life as well.

00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.797
Thank you, and clients as well.

00:40:29.797 --> 00:40:30.780
We had the same experience.

00:40:30.780 --> 00:40:41.407
Yeah, we were connected to the land and Well, yeah, the ancestors of the land, and the weather, and the sky, and the animals and trees.

00:40:42.496 --> 00:40:47.081
Yes, I was just listening to the cookaburra singing in the background as the sun is setting here.

00:40:47.081 --> 00:40:47.981
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:48.722 --> 00:40:49.543
It all affects us.

00:40:49.543 --> 00:40:50.844
It really does.

00:40:50.844 --> 00:40:53.648
So you arrived at the beach, so you can't.

00:40:53.648 --> 00:40:54.610
So we're going back to the beach.

00:40:54.610 --> 00:40:55.471
On the beach, were you?

00:40:55.471 --> 00:41:04.525
Yeah, I was just going to say I'm a little bit away from the tides Away from the tides, like at that point, I think, for a kilometer away, so not far.

00:41:04.974 --> 00:41:09.465
The town that I live in is right on the beach, yeah and yeah.

00:41:09.465 --> 00:41:22.224
So then I had this session with Hannah in my teaping, and what came through was she asked me a question like what does your business want to sell?

00:41:22.224 --> 00:41:27.186
Before I could even think about it, catherine, the word came through products.

00:41:27.186 --> 00:41:43.985
And I did the biggest double take, because if you know me, then you know that I have never, ever sold products and never got into any of the multi-label marketing stuff, like I deliberately stood clear from all of that and I just always thought I'd found my patch in life doing, you know, offering services.

00:41:45.335 --> 00:42:15.182
And so then I just had these visions come one after another, and I saw someone's hand, and I saw this coloured gemstone ring being placed, slid onto that person's finger, and as it did, I saw energy like light, like electrical currents, running up that person's arm and into their body, and as that happened then I saw their aura just go ding, like the light turned on, and I thought, oh, my goodness, what is this?

00:42:15.182 --> 00:42:17.119
What is this?

00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:34.144
And I got that I was meant to make gorgeous jewelry that is custom made for people's souls and it's designed to turn on people's lights and help their soul blossom and people step into their full potential.

00:42:34.164 --> 00:42:44.126
How amazing have you ever heard or read or anything of anyone doing anything similar to that?

00:42:44.226 --> 00:42:45.108
Never, never.

00:42:45.108 --> 00:42:48.478
I think to me so much by surprise.

00:42:48.478 --> 00:42:50.945
It was like something completely new.

00:42:50.945 --> 00:42:53.942
I could never even think of that.

00:42:53.942 --> 00:43:03.871
Catherine, like my little pea-prane, could never come up with an idea like that and it could never come up with it so fully fleshed out of what I was given.

00:43:03.871 --> 00:43:24.028
You know that I was given that they were meant to be high quality and heirloom pieces and that they're meant to be the highest energetic powers that I could make, and just all of these different things that came through.

00:43:24.028 --> 00:43:29.329
I could never have conjured up myself and took me by complete surprise.

00:43:29.329 --> 00:43:32.340
Yeah, and I also thought why?

00:43:32.380 --> 00:43:35.722
me, are you crazy, spirit?

00:43:35.722 --> 00:43:41.614
You must be crazy, because I don't know anything about jewelry and like, are you sure?

00:43:41.614 --> 00:43:43.324
Like, have you got the right person?

00:43:43.324 --> 00:43:46.545
Because I thought I was just going to be my teepee for the rest of my days.

00:43:46.545 --> 00:43:49.784
Do you know, like, this is something out there.

00:43:49.784 --> 00:43:56.942
And then I kept saying to Hannah at the end of the session do you really think, like, do you really think I can do this?

00:43:56.942 --> 00:44:04.047
Like, do you think, oh, just, you know giggling the whole way, thinking oh gosh, I don't know.

00:44:04.047 --> 00:44:06.161
But okay, yes, all right, I'm going to give it a go.

00:44:07.204 --> 00:44:10.983
How amazing that sounds like what some of us might call a download.

00:44:10.983 --> 00:44:11.896
Yes.

00:44:12.036 --> 00:44:13.442
I call it a divine download.

00:44:13.541 --> 00:44:16.039
Yes, yeah, that just kind of landed with you.

00:44:16.936 --> 00:44:18.610
And then you had a choice to.

00:44:19.195 --> 00:44:38.541
Oh, yes, yes, and it looked like such a big task because not only were there so many things that I didn't know about that I needed to learn about so many things, I needed to pull together to create a business, but also, could I do it?

00:44:38.541 --> 00:44:40.300
Could I get over myself that?

00:44:40.300 --> 00:44:50.871
Yeah, I feel like I was going to say something else in Catherine, but yeah, that was such a huge part, Like could I actually do it?

00:44:50.871 --> 00:44:52.894
So I knew that there.

00:44:52.894 --> 00:45:07.570
Like I got in that first, that first big divine download, a few steps that I needed to take, which was source of jeweler, find where I get, if it like find where I get gemstones, which then ended up being find where I get, if it could source gemstones from.

00:45:08.773 --> 00:45:13.251
Figure out how to pull all of this together like what, how do I even offer this to people?

00:45:13.251 --> 00:45:17.987
How is this even a business and what am I offering people?

00:45:17.987 --> 00:45:21.934
And then they just sort of it, just sort of came, just sort of came.

00:45:21.934 --> 00:45:29.681
But it was at the beginning, just another one of those timers.

00:45:29.681 --> 00:45:31.268
I thought I just have to give it a go.

00:45:31.268 --> 00:45:40.228
Like you know, after my daughter was like I just have to give the healing, like a go, and then I thought I just have to give this ago and see what happens, Like what's there to lose?

00:45:40.228 --> 00:45:50.097
There's probably a fair bit of time to lose and a bit of a financial investment to give sending up a business you know to start that.

00:45:50.478 --> 00:45:57.094
But, what if it's amazing you weren't buying in lots of gems and training as a jeweler.

00:45:57.094 --> 00:45:59.217
What are you so?

00:46:00.224 --> 00:46:06.987
I bought some gemstones at the beginning, actually, but I wasn't training as a jeweler, but I don't know.

00:46:06.987 --> 00:46:16.137
Maybe you've already noticed in what I've said, Catherine, that I have somehow this amazing ability to find the most incredible people.

00:46:16.137 --> 00:46:39.005
Like I just come across the most amazing people, Catherine, and when I follow my intuition, like I'm, I just, yeah, I found this jeweler who is in Melbourne and he he's the one who creates my, my pieces of jewelry, has over 30 years experience, mentors me as well and teaches me all these incredible stuff.

00:46:39.005 --> 00:46:49.393
And like, every time I pick up a piece of jewelry, like tears well up in my eyes because I just can't believe, like the craftsmanship is just unbelievable.

00:46:49.393 --> 00:46:52.164
So, like I'm, I'm, I don't know.

00:46:52.164 --> 00:47:01.206
I'm really lucky, I know how to find really good people and, yeah, that makes all the difference.

00:47:01.867 --> 00:47:08.106
Yeah, you said something to me earlier about how, about how, into what you're following.

00:47:08.106 --> 00:47:12.018
Intuition helps connect us with each other.

00:47:12.940 --> 00:47:13.483
And what?

00:47:13.503 --> 00:47:18.172
you said just then about when you were following your intuition, you could find the right people.

00:47:18.172 --> 00:47:24.855
What's your, what's your understanding of what that connection is, why that connection works?

00:47:26.525 --> 00:47:28.028
Oh, why does it work?

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Because our souls know there is a high wisdom that we are tapping into and connecting with, and we call that intuition.

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You know this, this, yes, a higher knowledge, a higher intelligence, something that, like I said before, my little P brain couldn't think of that.

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I mean that, like, my human brain is smart, it's intelligent.

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You know, I love my brain but, honestly, the wisdom that comes through from source, if you want to call it source, or the divine, or high intelligence, there is something that is so, I don't have words for it.

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And so when we follow, when we get these little nudges of hints of intuition, like Donna, contact this person or go to the coffee shop and order the smoothie instead of having, you know, toast at home, like, and then I happen to meet someone you know, like, it's these tiny little things that we can't logically comprehend.

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We can't understand at that point in time why we would do that.

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But when we do that and the magical things happen, then hindsight is such a beautiful thing, isn't it Catherine?

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And we're like oh, that's why my intuition told me da, da, da, da, da.

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And now I'm sitting in this position where my business is fully fledged and, you know.

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I've got customers and pieces of jewelry being created and the most amazing conversations like this one, catherine, with you, and I have the most incredible interactions with my customers and we all just feel so much better for it.

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And I'm sitting here going.

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Now I get like.

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Now I get why the divine, or the soul of my business, or my soul, wanted me to do this work, because it is the best possible thing.

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I couldn't even imagine like that.

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There would be anything better for me than doing this work and the level of fulfillment that I have has grown infinitely.

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But also I've met the most amazing people and I get to play with gorgeous gemstones and create beautiful things in the world in the name of healing.

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Like how lucky am I.

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Ep 130: Donna Wallace ~ Intuition, Healing & Transformation

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