Ep 124: Mas Sajady ~ Exploring the Mysteries of Life, Death & Beyond

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Truth and Transcendence, brought to you by being Space with Catherine Llewellyn.

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Truth and Transcendence, episode 124, with special guest Maz Sajadi.

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Now, if you haven't heard of Maz, he's a very unusual human being Using unprecedented knowledge and abilities gained from three near-death experiences.

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Maz has helped hundreds of thousands throughout the world transform in record time.

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Maz actually offers answers to life's biggest questions and his miraculous abilities have helped set thousands of people across the world.

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Maz calls the unique knowledge and abilities acquired after his near-deaths exponential intelligence, or XI, which combines the physics of space-time and the power of frequencies for rapid real-time life transformations and insight that go far beyond psychology willpower or any other known self-improvement method, and offers a glimpse into the next stage of human evolution.

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So I think it's pretty obvious why I wanted Maz to come on the podcast, because this is just fascinating.

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The story really is unique and fascinating and his work is groundbreaking, and I really love how Maz has taken a potentially devastating series of circumstances and transformed them into an extraordinary opportunity, not just for personal expansion but also for the development of his exciting work with frequencies.

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So, maz, I'm so excited to have you on Truth and Transcendence.

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Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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It's going to be a great show.

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Fantastic, thank you.

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Well, I know that you're constantly presenting and on podcasts and so on, so I'm hoping that you'll find an opportunity to say something you've never said before on this podcast.

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That's part of what I always hope with my guests.

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Absolutely.

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Something comes through that we haven't already said so life transformation.

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Tell me a bit more about what you mean by that.

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Or a lot of people who use, say, psychology or self-improvement surgeries, getting a relationship, or success concepts, or even say spiritual concepts.

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They just literally say improve their life.

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They're in the same box, so to speak, of their idea of who they are.

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Their genetics stay the same, their idea of self stays the same, but they just say, expanded or added on to that box, whether against success or spiritual knowledge or anything else or healing.

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So what I do is literally go.

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This box that you're say creating yourself in is not the best box.

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That box comes from hundreds of generations back, or maybe even thousands of generations back.

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That box has been created from your family genetics and you've just been handed down generation after generation and then you build a little piece of, a little bit more of yourself in that box and then you hand it off to your kids.

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So that's a lot of say knowledge and information, useless knowledge and information that we all have inside like Z's patterns how we age, how we see success or how we really, how we interact in relationships.

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And as you know, you know divorce rates are high, suicide rates are high.

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The successful aren't really that happy, you know, with the money that they have.

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The non-successful at least they have hope, because they think once they get money, you know, or reach that success, they'll be happy, but then, just like everybody else, they won't.

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They'll still be in that same box.

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So what I do is like, okay, it's the box that's causing the problem, it's your environment around you and not your physical environment, but a high level environment of how, say, you create yourself in this physical form.

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So what I do is like, no, this reality or this dimension of yourself, say, isn't say the best environment for you to grow in.

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It's not nurturing.

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Let's move you over to say another dimension of yourself in space and time.

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And this is where it's more nurturing for you and this is where you can see or start to pull out or enhance those natural abilities that you are.

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You know, katherine, when you're a kid, remember when we were kids, we were limitless, we had limitless potential.

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And then that gets buried because, again, the environment that we live in it doesn't have the right nutrition for us to really come into our grander version.

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So it's a transformation.

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It's not a self-improvement method.

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It literally is a life transformation where you age differently, where you see success.

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Success actually really means something to you.

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It's just not an accumulation of stuff that we think in relationships.

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You know, become more organic, become more good for you.

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I hear you, I get you, so that's interesting.

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So if someone's listening to that and they find themselves saying, well, how do I know if I'm just stuck in the box, or how do I know if I'm not stuck in the box?

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Right?

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Well, most people are, let's just say, everybody's stuck in that box.

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So what I teach is not really hey, go to this box and then plant yourself here, because over time and that's the crucial point over time, the box, even if you're perfect in this point in time, well, moments later, or a day later or a month later, you're not going to be that perfect.

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So you always have to be in time.

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So I don't teach you going from hey, go box to box A to box B.

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What I teach you is like okay, let's be fluid in present moment time.

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And all the monks, all the sages, everybody that you talk about is like gosh, let's.

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Being present is the most powerful moment and through the three new deaths I've had, I see presence at a very, very different state or a very, very different level.

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So what I teach you, catherine, to answer your question, is literally I teach you the mechanics of always moving forward in time, so you're always present 24-7.

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Right, so you don't ever get stuck in a box because you're not anchoring yourself somewhere.

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Yes, you're very fluid.

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Yes, so in this, once you understand the mechanics of that, what happens, catherine, is that well, you stay ever present, you stay vital, you stay youthful, you don't age again.

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Success has real value, has real intrinsic value for you, because you're finding yourself worth it.

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Who you are, yeah, compared to who you are, the grand aversion, or I call it, your limitless self.

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Yeah.

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Who you are Understood.

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Yes, limitless self I think it's a wonderful term, but the grand aversion, I like that as well.

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Yeah, so grand, which is abundant, isn't it?

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There's something about that that's very appealing.

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Well, if you were an awakened spirit, or if you knew how much power you actually had, or if you knew how much power that creates you here, your physical form, which is very limited and again, I've been there through the three near deaths I've literally transcended this physical body and went to a higher version of myself.

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So, my conscious being not my mind, because obviously my mind is part of my body but my conscious being say it transcended space and time and at that level you turn into your spirit form.

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And your spirit form, well, it's a grand being, it's limitless and there's no lack, there's no need for control, because you are master of your domain and, well, everything's brilliant for you.

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Yes, wonderful.

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Would you mind sharing a bit more about these near death experiences that you had?

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Of course, I've never had a near death experience, I don't think.

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I mean, I've had some experiences where I'm lucky I got away without killing myself, but I didn't actually have a near death experience with those completely different.

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Yeah and just and again.

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One of my abilities is just reading people, but it seems like you might have had people that have died around you when you were younger, so you can use that as a near death experience, if done right as well.

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I see what you mean.

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Yes, if you're kind of exposed to the experience of being around death.

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But that's not going to be as intense, surely, as having a personal near death experience.

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Well, if done right, it'll.

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Actually, you're right, it's not as concentrated but it's pretty close to done right and we're going to talk about that.

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So we'll leave that for a little later, but you can find more of my story on ximeditationscom.

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The first near death, catherine, and let me just preface it, because there's a lot of near deaths that happen every day, thousands and thousands of documented near death that happen every day here in the US.

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Why do most people not use that experience to expand, like I did?

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So you have to be tuned or groomed for that near death to say, benefit you.

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So for me, I was really searching for the answer to life, literally like Einstein's equation is like, what's that one equation?

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Because it is literally a one equation to life.

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From what I'm finding out, what is that one answer?

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And as a teenage kid, as a young kid, that's all I had.

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That's all was in my mind day in, day out, wanting that so badly.

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Well, I got my wish.

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I was working at the time.

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I was working in a warehouse unloading railcars and, just to make it short, I got my jaws crushed in a moving wall.

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So I was hanging by my jaw, not my neck my jaw, and these are complete near deaths.

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So there are different levels of near deaths and again, we can talk about that later.

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But I completely separated from my physical form and that's the moment I knew my grander version.

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So I've actually experienced that grand version and it is, you're right, so grand that and so immaculate that it's way beyond any concept that we understand in this reality of how it could be.

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And I looked at myself.

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I'm going well, wait a second, what am I doing here?

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Again, my grand being compared to because my body was dangling over there about 10 feet away.

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I'm going and I'm still conscious and I'm still here.

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I'm going, wow.

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And then that's where I realized that I had died, I had completely separated it from my body and then I transcended to even higher form of myself, or if you want to call it heaven, but there's different layers of heaven as well but I transcended to a higher level and that's where I revisited life, or people go life review.

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This is where people get it wrong and they go well, somebody's there and they see if you've been good and bad, and then that's where you go to heaven.

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Hell, it's really not that way at all, catherine.

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It literally is about a life review, so you understand from a grander version of who you are, not, say, an uneducated version of how we go through life.

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Most people who go through life they're, say, at kindergarten level, and that's why life doesn't really work out the way it should.

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We don't know the mechanics or the knowledge or why we have been here.

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So it's like, why are we here?

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And then we don't even have a clue.

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But when we come from life from a higher perspective, we go oh, that's why we're here, so we understand it.

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So all those experiences actually show up as, oh, that's why that happened, or that's why that happened.

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And this allows you to awaken to a higher level of self.

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And that's what I did awaken to a higher level of self.

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And then I came back into my body and that's where everything changed for me.

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So I mean everything, how I see myself, how I created or rendered my body here, because your body's, it's frequencies.

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It's not a tangible asset, let's say, nor is anything else.

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Everything is a frequency.

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And quantum mechanics or quantum physics is literally says the same thing I do.

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It's like everything's based on frequency.

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It's the movements of atoms, right, it's a resonance of atoms, and then it creates solid objects.

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So the second near death was a drowning accident.

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I was sucked into a cenotaser, basically a hole in the bottom of a river, and that's where, again, I separated from my body.

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I was under water maybe about eight to 10 minutes, according to my ex-wife and somehow the miraculous intervention I found myself about 100 yards above the river or above the place that I got sucked into and so which is miraculous because I would have floated downriver, but in reality I, you know, I, came back out.

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So that scenario, when I again transcended my body, I went through the 13 layers of, say, reconditioning.

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So you go through layers as you recondition and those layers are moving you or taking away the distortions of time or your experiences.

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So the first, for example, the first layer is where you've heard people who've had near deaths, where they go.

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You know where they go.

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Oh, I saw my family, my loved ones were waiting for me on the other side, you know, and so on, like that.

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So that's, like you know, again, a welcome form, right, they're just waiting for you and then you can go through the layers.

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The fourth layer is the life review, which I did, you know the beginning, but then I transcended all 13 layers and kind of sneaked past the veil of identity, where you're not supposed to come back, but somehow I came back and at that level you start to understand the mechanics on how this reality works space, time, how density works, why you're here and all those deep questions that we, you know, haven't figured out for centuries or millennia.

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Right, you, I got it firsthand, firsthand knowledge, and I also tapped into the, the, the, I call it the limitless database, the universal database.

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That database, or that consciousness, holds everything, all knowledge, because it transcends time.

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So everything that is ever known or is present or in the future, is in that, in that consciousness.

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Again, that transcends time, we just need time to read it, that's all.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and then I came back down and that's where my gifts started, you know your second near death.

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Yeah, after my second near death.

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So the first one allowed me to understand that we have great potential.

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The second near death allowed me to physically say reclaim that great potential, and that's what I teach people now, because we're all the same.

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It's just that I had that experience that allowed me to say, understand it from a different level.

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And that's literally what XI, or becoming exponentially intelligence, is about, just literally, you becoming your grander version and living life from that grander version.

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Amazing, very beautiful, very beautiful.

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So a couple of questions come up for me.

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So one question is after you came back into your body on any of these occasions, did you have any sense of you know?

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Actually I preferred it over there, you know, I would rather not have come back.

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Yes, oh, my goodness, yes.

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So once you know your potential because I would say that's 99% of who you really are so the life that you live is only 1%, and that's why sometimes it's so meaningless, especially nowadays, you know, since you know there's a lot of depression and suicide, and you know, just like, no matter what you do, it's like gosh.

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I'm just not happy, and the reason why is because you're starting to realize that there's a bigger portion of you that's missing from your life and you want to go back to that portion.

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So, but again, you don't you want to do it the right way.

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Okay, so so, yes, so my first near death really got me excited afterwards, because everything was so bright, catherine, everything was just so brilliantly bright.

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Foods tasted better, although my jaw was wired shut for three months.

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I had to blend my food, but it didn't matter, I was so happy.

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So, so, like on top of a cloud, because you literally are on top of cloud, because you don't exist in your this body anymore.

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You see, or you create your body from a much, much higher layer of who you are.

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So there we are, walking on the cloud and this reality and and you know, on all the say shortcomings of this world, you see it from a very different level.

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But then over time you get to see also the heaviness of this reality, right, the chaos, and you go.

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Why can't people just be nice to each other?

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You know, why is there so much suffering?

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Why, you know, why are people, you know, out of food, or you know, homeless, or they're struggling in their relationships, although they might have everything, don't they see what they have?

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Because they don't.

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There's the these filters that you know, again, I help remove so they actually see their abundance of who they are in physical form.

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Yeah, so I actually wanted to go well, what if I had this near death?

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So I, you know, I schemed, you know, going, well, I just want to do something where I get close to that near death experience.

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So I was like planning or designing these things.

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But I'm going to wait a second.

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If I, if I mess up, I'll be dead.

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If I'm a little too overboard, I'm never going to come back.

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So that idea of, well, I just want another, you know, I'll just create a near death for myself.

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It's not a smart idea because you don't know the mechanics on how to do that perfectly.

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So you, you are just dead enough to come back.

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Yeah, and you sort of.

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The whole thought form behind that in and of itself is not really in tune with the whole realization that you had anyway, is it yeah?

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No, not at all.

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I don't know.

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I actually spotted that.

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But the idea of being there was so enticing, you know, and it's so beautiful and so grand.

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You know that it just like sucks you to that higher level.

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So my second near death literally allowed me to stay at that level in physical form.

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Right, I did get my wish.

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Yeah, you did, but, you know, not necessarily a pleasant experience of being stuck in a hole in the bottom of a river or whatever it was.

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It didn't.

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Well, you know, when you're, when you're, when you're getting pulled into the bowels of the earth because it was probably a lava tube that was filled with water, and again it goes into the depths of the earth you don't really think about oh, this sucks, or that.

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It's very momentary, because when you, you know, when you, when you know that you're going to die, you know, it's, that's it right, you know you're going to die.

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It's like, it's like, well, you don't think about oh, this sucks, or anything.

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You just literally disconnect and go into your literally grand version of who you are.

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Yeah, I understand you don't have a drama about it.

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No, it's just you're so present in the moment that you don't think of stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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It's just, and then you transcend into that beautiful state.

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Fantastic.

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Well, thank you for coming back, because you know, otherwise we'd be off there having these wonderful experiences and we'd all be none the wiser.

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I love what you said.

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When you said, when you came back after the first near death experience, how your experience was heightened in terms of the taste of food and the colors and the light, because it wasn't that.

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You came back and were just, oh my God, I'm in this dull version of reality.

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You came back and you were actually perceiving things in a much more vivid way, at a much higher level than previously, which is fantastic.

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So when did you get the idea of putting this into something where you could then work with other people?

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Oh, that was after my second year of death.

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It took me about three, four years to figure things out.

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The dark nights of the soul, and everybody goes through that.

00:22:34.484 --> 00:22:36.632
You know Jesus went through that, blue went through that.

00:22:36.632 --> 00:22:42.703
Many other great individuals not as popular as them go through that space.

00:22:42.703 --> 00:22:45.616
You know success makes you go through the dark night of the souls.

00:22:45.616 --> 00:22:48.734
Love makes you go through the dark night of the souls.

00:22:48.734 --> 00:22:51.023
It literally is about going gosh.

00:22:51.023 --> 00:22:53.172
You know what I need to leave my old self behind.

00:22:53.853 --> 00:23:07.998
So, that's what the dark night of the souls is, and it is a death experience, by the way, Right, because your idea of who you are is so ingrained in you and you're ingrained in your identity that you, it's that separation of self.

00:23:07.998 --> 00:23:17.738
So, again, about three years after my second year of death, that's where I started reclaiming who I am.

00:23:17.738 --> 00:23:22.758
So, after the dark night of the soul, my ability started to come through, and we all have these abilities.

00:23:22.758 --> 00:23:25.978
We just need to again remove all those things that were not.

00:23:25.978 --> 00:23:29.371
That's what we do remove those things that were not.

00:23:29.371 --> 00:23:35.532
I don't add anything more to you, I literally just remove the things that you're not and your brilliant self comes through.

00:23:35.953 --> 00:23:36.855
Yeah, I understand.

00:23:37.498 --> 00:23:39.521
Which is very different than what most people do.

00:23:39.521 --> 00:23:41.354
You know psychology or anything else.

00:23:42.517 --> 00:23:48.798
Well, we're in a materialistic world, aren't we, where the idea is that if you're not satisfied, you add more.

00:23:48.798 --> 00:23:58.103
Yeah, whether that's a modality or a least learning or something rather than, if you're not happy, get rid of stuff.

00:23:58.769 --> 00:23:59.932
Yeah, you get rid of stuff.

00:23:59.932 --> 00:24:04.810
You get rid of the stuff that's causing you the you know being not happy.

00:24:04.810 --> 00:24:22.959
But as you clean yourself up, you get drawn to and I'm a scientist at heart, you know as you clean yourself up, you know I was mesmerized or intrigued by how everything works and how the mechanics of all this, what we call life, work.

00:24:22.959 --> 00:24:32.324
So I started to observe, I became an observer of life, and that's where I observed my life and I started to go back and go.

00:24:32.324 --> 00:24:43.210
Oh, that's why those things happened to me the way I did, and I noticed that we just were all literally programs that run not to make it, not to make it cold or not to make it like we're robots.

00:24:43.329 --> 00:24:51.436
It's actually very exciting, although at first, when I figured that out, it's like gosh, we're just a, you know, a system of programs or what I call frequencies.

00:24:51.436 --> 00:24:57.497
You know we've got, we're basically frequencies that we call us.

00:24:57.497 --> 00:25:00.803
You know we call Moss or Catherine, you know.

00:25:00.803 --> 00:25:03.674
So that's your personal frequency signature.

00:25:03.674 --> 00:25:23.811
So, but but then later on, it's like, wait a second, if we're just programs, if we're just programs, that means that if I change my program, I could have a different life Instead of losing control and going gosh, we're programs and this life means nothing.

00:25:23.811 --> 00:25:39.296
It's like, well, no, I mean, took you millions and billions of years to create, you know, an item, you know a being of this grandness like we're, amazing beings right to come into physical form and make it work the way we do.

00:25:39.296 --> 00:25:40.178
It's just amazing.

00:25:41.101 --> 00:25:46.432
So what I did was go gosh, how do I access that program?

00:25:46.432 --> 00:25:53.311
And that's where real, you know knowledge started to pour in with me, catherine.

00:25:53.311 --> 00:25:57.969
So, and that knowledge was well, you change your frequency, you change your life.

00:25:57.969 --> 00:26:01.925
So you change your frequency and I actually say you, you change your genetics.

00:26:01.925 --> 00:26:04.815
What changes your life and what we do?

00:26:04.815 --> 00:26:13.097
So I got drawn more and more into that and you know 100, over 100,000 clients, sessions, tens of thousands of people that I've worked on.

00:26:13.097 --> 00:26:30.037
There's a lot of research, that's that I've done field research, not clinical research, where you're stuck in a lab and you're just testing out theories, but actually working on live cases, again, tens of thousands of them, getting actual results for people.

00:26:30.037 --> 00:26:36.056
So I've turned it into literally a science that's duplicatable, yeah.

00:26:37.018 --> 00:26:39.624
Over what sort of time period has this been occurring?

00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:49.372
What's always ongoing, because you can always learn more and more, but right now, as of this recording, about 12 years, Amazing.

00:26:50.232 --> 00:26:53.859
So that must have had quite an extraordinary effect on you.

00:26:53.859 --> 00:26:59.681
You know, embarking on that and engaging with that, working with all those people over that time.

00:27:00.250 --> 00:27:00.952
Oh, absolutely.

00:27:00.952 --> 00:27:02.957
You learn so much if you do it right.

00:27:02.957 --> 00:27:09.837
Most people, when they work on people, they harbor or they take on the burdens of that person.

00:27:09.837 --> 00:27:21.578
What I do, what I figured out, is like wait a second, I can learn from that individual and be a better scope of who I am right and then also help them remove their burdens.

00:27:21.578 --> 00:27:26.856
So I don't carry any burdens, I don't allow them to carry any burdens Again.

00:27:26.856 --> 00:27:32.538
I remove stuff from them and then they become a better version and it's so impactful.

00:27:32.538 --> 00:27:46.970
Catherine, you can tell the difference between somebody who's exponentially intelligent or using the concepts of XI versus other modalities that are out there and again, I'm not dissing any other modality, but those modalities have a place.

00:27:46.970 --> 00:27:49.459
But we need to clean up at our core level.

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.349
That's the only difference right, so it's a compliment.

00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:58.723
What we do is a very it's a compliment to anybody else that's out there, so we get to the bottom.

00:27:58.723 --> 00:28:03.621
But now I forgot what I was going to say.

00:28:04.743 --> 00:28:17.819
And I forgot what you were going to say, because you were on a whole thread and then you sort of divert it slightly just to acknowledge that there are other amazing modalities out there, which I think is a really good thing to acknowledge in these conversations at some point, isn't it?

00:28:17.819 --> 00:28:28.239
Because otherwise listeners might be listening and thinking oh, so he thinks that his is the only really great thing, which is not what you're saying.

00:28:28.239 --> 00:28:30.269
So thank you for acknowledging that at that point.

00:28:31.574 --> 00:28:32.336
Yeah, we all need.

00:28:32.336 --> 00:28:52.239
But what I do, if you're building a foundation of a house, I would be that person that excavates everything and just removes all the trash so you can have a strong foundation and dig a strong foundation for you, and then most modalities are building the house, electrical systems and all that stuff that you need.

00:28:52.239 --> 00:28:56.474
Literally, I just create that strong foundation so you can build a grand house.

00:28:56.474 --> 00:28:58.320
Otherwise, your house sinks.

00:28:58.320 --> 00:29:14.018
And that's what most people realize when they create a lot of success or even when they get spiritually awakened they're still running or they're still on a very rickety foundation that was built thousands of years ago, right from their generational pattern.

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:36.203
Now, that's very interesting because you mentioned this in the prequel about the generational pattern and how things have passed down through many, many generations and some people talk about past lives and bringing forward sort of damage from past lives, and people talk about this sort of thing in a variety of different ways.

00:29:36.203 --> 00:29:44.034
But I felt like the way you were talking about it was a bit different because you also, while we were talking about that, said something about that.

00:29:44.034 --> 00:29:48.505
The way people die also affects the future generations.

00:29:48.505 --> 00:29:55.262
So could I ask you to expand a little bit on that whole side of what you were talking about?

00:29:55.750 --> 00:30:00.603
Yes, absolutely, and I just remembered which is important for what we're talking about now.

00:30:00.603 --> 00:30:18.878
What I was going to say is that the work that I do is so impactful that when you change and transform even if your loved ones are the people that you interact with don't do the work they literally like transform with you.

00:30:18.878 --> 00:30:24.272
So that's say, a genetic makeup on bars or a genetic propensity of who we are.

00:30:24.272 --> 00:30:30.324
Our DNA is always a seeking a better or a higher version every moment.

00:30:30.324 --> 00:30:40.000
So when you say somebody that is exponentially intelligent walks into a room, everybody literally stares at them or looks at them and is like, wow, who are they?

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:47.431
They're really awakened Because, again, we're all, at a very subconscious level, always searching to be a better version of who we are.

00:30:47.431 --> 00:30:51.498
It's again, it's our cellular command or coding.

00:30:53.461 --> 00:31:08.540
And the reason why that's important for your question about why death is so important is because an awakened death somebody that knows that say they know that they're a grand being.

00:31:08.540 --> 00:31:13.093
So an awakened death literally means that you're a grand being.

00:31:13.093 --> 00:31:17.950
You spent your time here on earth and then you're going to go back to who you are.

00:31:17.950 --> 00:31:19.093
You're going to go back home.

00:31:19.093 --> 00:31:28.358
Most people don't realize that concept, although it's like well, that sounds pretty normal, but sure they might understand it here.

00:31:28.358 --> 00:31:33.213
But the mechanics of letting go of your physical body is very different.

00:31:33.213 --> 00:31:38.544
So your idea of who you are goes with you.

00:31:38.544 --> 00:31:41.736
You let go of your body.

00:31:41.736 --> 00:31:54.574
Your idea of who you are goes with you into that higher state of consciousness, and that's where it's a non awakened death, because your idea is almost like you take your box with you.

00:31:54.594 --> 00:31:58.025
Yeah exactly Do you do?

00:31:58.025 --> 00:32:13.453
You take your box with you and it's like, especially those individuals who commit suicide or go to hospice or are unsedated, so they don't know that they're dead.

00:32:13.453 --> 00:32:30.961
They literally just the line becomes so narrow because, again, hospice, suicide and so on, they're nearing that, say, veil of death or they're bordering that line of life and death, because literally it's very sharp line.

00:32:30.961 --> 00:32:34.453
There's no in between.

00:32:34.453 --> 00:32:36.377
You're either alive or you're dead.

00:32:36.377 --> 00:32:38.803
There's again, there's no difference.

00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:52.410
But most people drag all their stuff that they're supposed to leave behind onto the other side and this is where the generational patterns get stuck in the living for them.

00:32:52.410 --> 00:33:07.801
Yeah, so in this scenario, if you're an awakened death, what you do is you leave your identity of your physical identity behind and you go to a higher level of self.

00:33:07.801 --> 00:33:12.796
So as you go to the higher level of self, you start to go God, you know what?

00:33:12.796 --> 00:33:18.195
I didn't need to die with cancer, I didn't need to die with this way.

00:33:19.058 --> 00:33:23.250
So you let go of all those genetic patterns or habits that's been formed.

00:33:23.250 --> 00:33:26.617
You didn't need to have abuse patterns running.

00:33:26.617 --> 00:33:40.181
So as you awaken and go, cross over, you discard those things that you don't need and you take the blessings of this reality, so you actually live in a bliss state or you go to heaven.

00:33:40.181 --> 00:33:48.471
Otherwise it would be a hell, because it's like gosh, I didn't get rid of myself and then you're there forever, unless something or someone awakens you.

00:33:48.471 --> 00:34:05.105
So when you just don't discard those people that are left behind, they magnify the distortions that you created.

00:34:05.105 --> 00:34:07.087
Does that make sense to you?

00:34:07.087 --> 00:34:09.773
Because they didn't make you awaken.

00:34:09.813 --> 00:34:26.061
I think you're saying that if you drag all that stuff with you when you die, that somehow the people who are left behind are affected by that and that they then magnify that distortion because you didn't let it go.

00:34:26.061 --> 00:34:34.059
But I imagine you're going to say that if you have an awakened death and you do let it go, does that then release the next?

00:34:34.621 --> 00:35:01.994
It actually becomes euphoric and that's where you can experience somebody else's death in a euphoric experience, because when they let go of their stuff, especially if you're a loved one or family or bloodline, when they let go of all their, say, genetic patterns I would call it spiritual genetics and then also physical genetics what happens is that the loved ones left behind, they start to awaken and go wait a second, I don't need this stuff either.

00:35:02.936 --> 00:35:21.856
So instead of getting burdened by somebody's death and then getting worse or morphing into, say, that person that died, especially if you took care of somebody you took care of your parents, because they got older, they died and then you turn into your parents Again, not a death.

00:35:21.856 --> 00:35:32.090
So what I'm saying is that an awakened death is like they awaken, they cross over, they let dump their burdens here and it creates a euphoric state.

00:35:32.090 --> 00:35:34.293
It's an amazing, literally.

00:35:34.293 --> 00:35:44.144
That light of your spirit transcends down in this reality and that's where people actually feel the beauty of death.

00:35:44.144 --> 00:35:54.391
As somebody crosses over, especially if you're around that person while they're dying, it becomes a euphoric or timeless moment.

00:35:54.391 --> 00:36:04.481
So that offers you a near-death experience without actually going through a near-death experience, and you see the greatness of who you are because you get pulled right into that space.

00:36:06.610 --> 00:36:16.697
As you release it, you release all the distortions of your genetics and your habits and all those things that just aren't beneficial for you, by the way.

00:36:19.672 --> 00:36:24.565
Well, that sounds fantastic, doesn't it?

00:36:24.565 --> 00:36:58.242
You mentioned earlier that one of the things, that one of these abilities that you came out with and, of course, we haven't spoken about your third near-death experience, of course, which I'd love to hear about but you said that one of the abilities that you came out with was this ability to perceive in another person something about their relationship with death, and that's very interesting to me as well, because I do feel that people's relationship with death is very important for the appreciation of life.

00:36:58.242 --> 00:37:11.456
I don't see life as being something that exists only as long as you can avoid death you know what I mean Like a default thing.

00:37:11.456 --> 00:37:32.918
It feels to me more like having a full experience of life includes having a full respect for a loving relationship with death, but I've never sort of studied it in the way that you have and, of course, I haven't had the near-death experiences, but I'd love to hear a bit more about that.

00:37:34.021 --> 00:37:49.315
Well, when you understand the mechanics of death and how it all works and how I explained it, death actually becomes a euphoric experience, because you're going back to yourself in the right moment.

00:37:49.315 --> 00:37:51.438
That's the key.

00:37:51.438 --> 00:37:57.922
It's not like, oh, I'll just kill myself and then I'm going to go, because, again, that's not an awakened state.

00:37:57.922 --> 00:37:59.367
You were here for a reason.

00:37:59.367 --> 00:38:05.260
So once you understand that reason, death becomes more, say, expansive.

00:38:05.260 --> 00:38:09.177
For you it's an expansive state rather than shunning it away.

00:38:09.177 --> 00:38:17.121
But once you understand death, you literally embrace life even more, because there's no fear Most, fear most.

00:38:17.181 --> 00:38:24.135
anxiety again always goes, or psychologists are finding out that it always traces back to a fear of death.

00:38:24.918 --> 00:38:26.199
Yeah, really.

00:38:26.501 --> 00:38:40.126
Yeah, if you resolve that piece of yourself, that aspect of yourself, you'll start to understand life at a very, very deep level, because you start to understand that you are a spirit and you never die.

00:38:40.126 --> 00:38:43.454
You just transfer into different aspects of self.

00:38:43.454 --> 00:38:57.612
Yeah, and to put it in a spiritual term, they say that the angel of death is actually the savior of life for you, because the angel of death can never take you before your time.

00:38:57.612 --> 00:39:06.184
So, it watches out for you till your time comes up Amazing, love it.

00:39:06.469 --> 00:39:07.331
And death.

00:39:07.331 --> 00:39:11.059
The angel of death, your savior of life.

00:39:11.541 --> 00:39:25.538
Yeah Well, the most frequent deaths I've experienced in my life have been deaths of my cats, because, of course, cats don't live as long as humans and there's always that question which is, is it their time?

00:39:25.538 --> 00:39:45.864
And the degree of reaction that we as humans have to the death of another, whether it's a cat or a human or whatever it is, but that degree of pain that we have a lot of, it is actually well, it's all about us.

00:39:45.864 --> 00:39:50.077
It's our own sense of loss, it's not really on behalf of the other person.

00:39:50.117 --> 00:40:02.402
I mean, we might have an empathic feeling of you know that person's in pain and obviously I'm sad about that, but I think a lot of the pain we experience around death is selfish.

00:40:02.402 --> 00:40:03.646
It's a selfish.

00:40:03.646 --> 00:40:07.295
You know that person won't be there to tell me they love me anymore.

00:40:08.016 --> 00:40:10.782
Exactly, or what would I do with that person?

00:40:10.782 --> 00:40:13.211
I'm lost without them, and so on.

00:40:13.211 --> 00:40:16.597
And then it creates, you know, that death Absolutely.

00:40:16.597 --> 00:40:26.090
And what happens to, like I said, is that, you know, then you start to carry the burdens of that person that have died.

00:40:26.090 --> 00:40:41.123
Yeah, even if you didn't help them out, even if you were close to them, you needed that person in your life for some reason, for example, not say a good reason, but when you needed that person.

00:40:41.123 --> 00:40:46.097
So when they die, you have to replace that person.

00:40:47.219 --> 00:40:47.460
Yes.

00:40:48.722 --> 00:40:50.065
Because again you didn't awaken.

00:40:51.594 --> 00:40:57.771
I understand, and then the person you replace them with is then stuck with that baggage as well.

00:40:58.612 --> 00:40:59.072
Absolutely.

00:40:59.211 --> 00:41:00.592
And you get a repeating cycle.

00:41:06.115 --> 00:41:09.759
So sorry about that.

00:41:09.759 --> 00:41:13.322
So it's interesting you bring in pets.

00:41:13.322 --> 00:41:23.351
So this is you know, with pets, most people they dump their stuff on their pets.

00:41:23.351 --> 00:41:29.559
You know, like, say, if you have heart disease, you're cat or whatever has heart disease.

00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.742
That makes sense for you.

00:41:30.742 --> 00:41:42.594
So in that scenario, when your pet dies, that burden or that frequency that you say gave to them, you have to find a storage place for it.

00:41:42.594 --> 00:41:47.659
And this is where people get you know, are tragically affected.

00:41:48.521 --> 00:41:52.985
In the case of pets, what happens is that you know, most people use pets.

00:41:52.985 --> 00:42:02.018
Most people use pets because they are full of frequencies, they can't hold on to any more stuff.

00:42:02.018 --> 00:42:07.590
Most people have children because they can't hold on to any more stuff, for example.

00:42:07.590 --> 00:42:17.788
Okay, and then what happens is that is that I'll have a pet or I'll, I will have kids so I can dump my stuff onto them.

00:42:17.788 --> 00:42:20.130
So it's a receptacle.

00:42:20.130 --> 00:42:29.349
And then when that child dies, for example, or that pet dies, it's like, well, I got to put those frequencies somewhere because they still exist.

00:42:29.349 --> 00:42:40.269
And then you take back the frequency that you gave your pet to hold on to and that's where you know it becomes a tragic experience rather than a euphoric experience.

00:42:40.614 --> 00:42:41.818
Yeah, because you don't want it back.

00:42:41.818 --> 00:42:45.255
And that's the one that's the most to put it Now.

00:42:45.255 --> 00:42:58.108
I think, I think, certainly I know that in childhood some people do experience a kind of a weird feeling that their parents are kind of, that.

00:42:58.108 --> 00:43:02.293
They are like an accessory to something their parents don't want to process.

00:43:02.293 --> 00:43:06.081
Yep, absolutely, you know, I've certainly witnessed that.

00:43:06.923 --> 00:43:07.085
Yes.

00:43:08.157 --> 00:43:17.204
And it's, and it's heavy, it's a heaviness, and then, of course, when you become an adult, it's probably very difficult not to duplicate that.

00:43:18.076 --> 00:43:20.619
Well, that's, that's my point, that's the whole point.

00:43:20.619 --> 00:43:29.594
Of XI is like you know, you become awakened and, for example, the death scenario and that's why I say it's a pandemic happening, because most people don't die properly.

00:43:29.594 --> 00:43:43.679
They dump their stuff on their children or their loved ones, and then their loved ones, you know they, they die, they get older, they don't process the information properly, you know so.

00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:55.509
So that person say has kids, young kids, and they basically, you know, tattoo that, that, that their frequencies onto them.

00:43:55.509 --> 00:43:57.471
If that makes sense to you.

00:43:57.751 --> 00:43:57.972
Yes.

00:43:58.735 --> 00:44:02.742
Their habits, their, their, their diseases and so on.

00:44:02.742 --> 00:44:04.326
They pass it on to their kids.

00:44:04.326 --> 00:44:17.420
Yeah, and what we're doing, Lerdey, is what we're doing is is that is that you know, when you awaken, death, it starts a cycle, A blissful cycle, an upward cycle.

00:44:17.420 --> 00:44:18.181
What?

00:44:18.181 --> 00:44:20.947
What humans do create a downward cycle.

00:44:20.947 --> 00:44:24.818
So, again, so you don't let go of your genetics.

00:44:24.818 --> 00:44:27.242
Your loved ones hold on to their genetics.

00:44:27.242 --> 00:44:30.965
Even more it, you know, it magnifies as you die.

00:44:30.965 --> 00:44:36.576
You pass your genetics on to your kids, yeah, and then the cycle starts over.

00:44:36.576 --> 00:44:38.077
So it's a downward cycle.

00:44:38.077 --> 00:44:43.222
So what we're doing here is again we awaken and you die.

00:44:44.123 --> 00:44:51.231
Right, you, as a, you say, you know, as their loved one, let's go of your patterns.

00:44:51.231 --> 00:44:55.980
If you have kids or the younger generation, they go oh gosh, they're not.

00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:57.902
Mom and dad isn't running their patterns.

00:44:57.902 --> 00:45:07.780
I don't have to run my patterns anymore, especially if you've got younger kids, when somebody dies and then they clean up their patterns while they're still alive.

00:45:07.780 --> 00:45:12.708
So they have kids, they're not carrying the burdens of previous generations.

00:45:12.708 --> 00:45:25.929
I mean, yeah, and you know, when I read people Catherine, not over 90, 95% of most people, it's not them it's a rendition of what their parents had.

00:45:25.929 --> 00:45:28.971
You know, yeah.

00:45:30.215 --> 00:45:48.092
And which, of course, is why it's so valuable for people to go back and process those past deaths that have occurred in their lives and process their own baggage that they're carrying in relationship to that Right To themselves.

00:45:48.715 --> 00:45:49.175
Yeah, we don't.

00:45:49.175 --> 00:45:57.367
We don't evolve as beings, you know, we don't evolve into a higher level of self, we devolve, like like I just explained.

00:45:57.688 --> 00:46:07.309
Yeah, when I was a child, my mother died when I was quite young and in those days children were not allowed to go to the funeral.

00:46:07.309 --> 00:46:09.001
Oh wow.

00:46:09.916 --> 00:46:10.516
Because, it would.

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You know they said it was because they thought it would be too much for us.

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I think it's because they didn't think they could cope with having the children at the funeral.

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I think that's what was really going on.

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But I remember that being, I remember that feeling so wrong, just symbolically, that thing of you're supposed to deny that this has happened, you're not supposed to experience it, you're not supposed to reflect on it.

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And parents, adults, only talk about it in hushed voices around the corner, which is guaranteed to make a child feel like it's really, really, really bad.

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Yes probably their fault.

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You know that awful thing.

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So what you're talking about is kind of the other end of the scale from what I would call a very blind way to respond to someone's death.

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Ep 124: Mas Sajady ~ Exploring the Mysteries of Life, Death & Beyond

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